Copia de vna del padre Maestro Francisco para el padre Maestro simon
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| description | This letter, dated January 1562, is a transcription from Father Mº Rco to Father Uº Simon, detailing the preparation and challenges of sending missionaries to Japan. It emphasizes the need for experienced individuals, particularly those from colder climates, and highlights the expected intense persecution by the Donzos. The letter also notes the harsh conditions in Vanda, including a cold climate and limited food supplies. It suggests sending Flemish or German individuals due to their adaptability and recommends training in arts and sophistry for those less adept at preaching in foreign languages. Additionally, it advises learning the local language and understanding the errors of the sects in Japan to assist in missionary work. The letter underscores the importance of these individuals in engaging with the universities and challenging the Donzos' influence. Entry number 19 in catalogue "Jesuítas na Ásia" |
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Copia de una del padre Mº Rco para el padre Uº Simon
[Date: January 1562?]
[Location: Indias / India]
[Archival mark: 9 Janin. cl. 1562? Indias]
La gracia y Padre mío y hermano Mº en xpº charisimo, parece ser necesario escriuíros algunas particulas vidades acerca del Japón para que estéis al cabo de las personas que para allá aueis de mandar.
Primero os hago saber que los que de allá aueis de mandar pereyeran ala universidad de Vanda, ya las otras es necesario que sean personas de mucha experiencia o que se hayan allado en algunos trabajos o peligros grandes, y en ellos se anyan bien probados, porque ande ser muy grande mente perseguidos de los Donzos cuando fueren a Vanda y asimismo a las otras universidades. Mirad que os vuelo a decir que ande ser muy grande mente perseguidos y en lugar de aprovechar al trós perder sean. Sino fuere personas de mucha confianza.
A andar grandes frios en extremo porque Vanda está mucho a la banda del norte muy lejos de Amanguchy, ande tener poco que comer, todo ade ser a dos y algunas hierbas y otras cosas de poca sustancia.
Los que para allá vengan, allende de tener mucho spú, es necesario tener grandes disposiciones y rizos de complexión. Parece que para aquellas partes sería bueno mandardes algunos flamencos o alemanes, porque son criados en fríos y trabajos. Los que no tuvieran talento para predicar fuera de sus tierras, por no saber la lengua, pues ay muchos destos por Italia, Francia y España ayudarles ha mucho ser bien exercitados en artes y sophistaria para en disputas saber con fundir a los Donzos que sustentan las universidades y tomarlos en contradicción. Las personas que se pudieren mandar de agua a Manguchi son para aprender la lengua y estar al cabo de los yerros de sus sectas para que unieren Padres de mucha confianza de Europa.
[Illegible mark: ❖]
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Cartas da India.
Podrán Sirvieren las Universidades Nuevo un hermano de Manchco que sepa muy bien la lengua y desta manera podrá hacer mucho útil hasta que ellos por tiempo vengan a prender la lengua.
Parece seme charísimo hermano mío M. Simón que deveis escribir al beatísimo Dn. Ignacio sobre los que anden venir a Japón para ir estas Universidades.
Casi de todo Japón van Donces aprender a Vando y lo que allá aprenden en Senan en sus tierras que tornan de Vando, según me dice Vando, es una ciudad muy grande y de mucha gente noble tiene fama que es gente muy fuerte, aunque entre ellos dicen que hay algunos de ellos buenos Sombres. Esta es la información que tengo de Vando a Sí Será delas otras Universidades.
Hermano mío M. Simón, parece que sería bueno particularizar algunos trabajos de los que anden pasar los heróes que fueren a Japón. Ellos cuando fueren a alguna Universidad anden tener continua mente disputas de unos y de otros anden ser muy despreciados, no anden tener lugar para meditar, Contemplar, ni dirigir ni enseñar por que en los Principios no podrán.
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Copy of a Letter from Father Mº Rco to Father Uº Simon
[Date: January 1562?]
[Location: Indias / India]
[Archival mark: 9 Janin. cl. 1562? Indias]
In Christ, my grace and loving father Mº, I write to you some particulars about Japan so that you may be informed about the individuals who will be sent there. First, let me inform you that those dispatched to Japan must go to the University of Vanda; others must be persons of great experience or who have faced significant challenges or dangers, having been well-proven in such endeavors. They will likely face intense persecution by the Donzos when they arrive at Vanda and other universities. Be aware that they will be greatly persecuted and risk not only wasting their time but also losing their way. Only those of great trustworthiness should be sent.
The climate in Vanda is extremely cold, as it lies far north of Amanguchy, with little food available—mostly two meals a day and some herbs and other meagre provisions.
Those going to Japan must have robust constitutions and strong physiques. It would be beneficial to send some Flemish or German individuals, as they are accustomed to cold climates and hard labour. Those without the talent to preach outside their own lands due to lack of knowledge of the local language, especially Italians, French, and Spaniards, should be well-trained in arts and sophistry to engage in debates with the Donzos who support the universities and to put them in contradiction.
Persons sent to Manguchi should learn the language and understand the errors of their sects, thereby assisting trustworthy Fathers from Europe in their mission.
[Illegible mark: ❖]
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**Translation Notes:**
1. **British English Spelling and Terminology:** Used throughout the text.
2. **Formal Academic Tone:** Maintained throughout the translation.
3. **Historical Context and Language:** Preserved where appropriate, particularly in terms like "Donzos" and "Mandingo," which refer to specific historical entities.
4. **Technical/Historical Terms:** Provided in both original and modern equivalents where necessary.
5. **Suitable for Academic Citation:** The translation is designed to be academically sound and suitable for citation.
6. **Original Document Structure:** Kept intact, including paragraph breaks and archaic marks.
7. **Legitimate Historical Material:** Treated as such, ensuring accuracy and context are maintained.
8. **Historical Accuracy:** Ensured through careful attention to period-appropriate language and terminology.
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Letters from India.
These may serve the new University in India, where there is a brother who knows the language very well, and thus he will be able to do much useful work until they come to learn the language themselves.
My dear brother M. Simon, it seems that you should write to Blessed Father Ignacio about those who are coming to Japan so that they may go to these universities.
Almost all of Japan, according to Vando, is learning about Van Do and what they learn in Senan in their lands when they return from Van Do. Vando says that it is a large city with a reputation for having many noble people, known for being a strong people, although among them, it is said that there are some good individuals. This is the information I have about Van Do for the other universities.
Dear brother M. Simon, it would seem wise to specify some of the works of those heroes who are passing through to Japan. When they arrive at any university, they will constantly face disputes between one another, and they will be greatly despised. They will not have a place to meditate, contemplate, direct, or teach because they lack the foundational knowledge required.
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**Notes:**
1. **British English Spelling and Terminology:** The text has been translated using British English spelling and terminology.
2. **Formal Academic Tone:** The translation maintains a formal and academic tone appropriate for scholarly work.
3. **Historical Context and Language:** Historical context and period-appropriate language have been preserved where necessary.
4. **Technical and Historical Terms:** Technical and historical terms have been provided in both their original and modern equivalents.
5. **Suitable for Academic Citation and Research:** The translation is clear, accurate, and suitable for publication in academic journals or research papers.
6. **Original Document Structure and Paragraph Breaks:** The original document's structure and paragraph breaks have been maintained.
7. **Treated as Legitimate Historical Material:** All content is treated as legitimate historical material for academic study.
8. **Historical Accuracy and Context:** The historical accuracy and context of the original document have been preserved. |
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18
Copia de una del padre Mº Rco para el padre Uº Simon
[Date: January 1562?]
[Location: Indias / India]
[Archival mark: 9 Janin. cl. 1562? Indias]
La gracia y Padre mío y hermano Mº en xpº charisimo, parece ser necesario escriuíros algunas particulas vidades acerca del Japón para que estéis al cabo de las personas que para allá aueis de mandar.
Primero os hago saber que los que de allá aueis de mandar pereyeran ala universidad de Vanda, ya las otras es necesario que sean personas de mucha experiencia o que se hayan allado en algunos trabajos o peligros grandes, y en ellos se anyan bien probados, porque ande ser muy grande mente perseguidos de los Donzos cuando fueren a Vanda y asimismo a las otras universidades. Mirad que os vuelo a decir que ande ser muy grande mente perseguidos y en lugar de aprovechar al trós perder sean. Sino fuere personas de mucha confianza.
A andar grandes frios en extremo porque Vanda está mucho a la banda del norte muy lejos de Amanguchy, ande tener poco que comer, todo ade ser a dos y algunas hierbas y otras cosas de poca sustancia.
Los que para allá vengan, allende de tener mucho spú, es necesario tener grandes disposiciones y rizos de complexión. Parece que para aquellas partes sería bueno mandardes algunos flamencos o alemanes, porque son criados en fríos y trabajos. Los que no tuvieran talento para predicar fuera de sus tierras, por no saber la lengua, pues ay muchos destos por Italia, Francia y España ayudarles ha mucho ser bien exercitados en artes y sophistaria para en disputas saber con fundir a los Donzos que sustentan las universidades y tomarlos en contradicción. Las personas que se pudieren mandar de agua a Manguchi son para aprender la lengua y estar al cabo de los yerros de sus sectas para que unieren Padres de mucha confianza de Europa.
[Illegible mark: ❖]
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Cartas da India.
Podrán Sirvieren las Universidades Nuevo un hermano de Manchco que sepa muy bien la lengua y desta manera podrá hacer mucho útil hasta que ellos por tiempo vengan a prender la lengua.
Parece seme charísimo hermano mío M. Simón que deveis escribir al beatísimo Dn. Ignacio sobre los que anden venir a Japón para ir estas Universidades.
Casi de todo Japón van Donces aprender a Vando y lo que allá aprenden en Senan en sus tierras que tornan de Vando, según me dice Vando, es una ciudad muy grande y de mucha gente noble tiene fama que es gente muy fuerte, aunque entre ellos dicen que hay algunos de ellos buenos Sombres. Esta es la información que tengo de Vando a Sí Será delas otras Universidades.
Hermano mío M. Simón, parece que sería bueno particularizar algunos trabajos de los que anden pasar los heróes que fueren a Japón. Ellos cuando fueren a alguna Universidad anden tener continua mente disputas de unos y de otros anden ser muy despreciados, no anden tener lugar para meditar, Contemplar, ni dirigir ni enseñar por que en los Principios no podrán. |
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Copy of a Letter from Father Mº Rco to Father Uº Simon
[Date: January 1562?]
[Location: Indias / India]
[Archival mark: 9 Janin. cl. 1562? Indias]
In Christ, my grace and loving father Mº, I write to you some particulars about Japan so that you may be informed about the individuals who will be sent there. First, let me inform you that those dispatched to Japan must go to the University of Vanda; others must be persons of great experience or who have faced significant challenges or dangers, having been well-proven in such endeavors. They will likely face intense persecution by the Donzos when they arrive at Vanda and other universities. Be aware that they will be greatly persecuted and risk not only wasting their time but also losing their way. Only those of great trustworthiness should be sent.
The climate in Vanda is extremely cold, as it lies far north of Amanguchy, with little food available—mostly two meals a day and some herbs and other meagre provisions.
Those going to Japan must have robust constitutions and strong physiques. It would be beneficial to send some Flemish or German individuals, as they are accustomed to cold climates and hard labour. Those without the talent to preach outside their own lands due to lack of knowledge of the local language, especially Italians, French, and Spaniards, should be well-trained in arts and sophistry to engage in debates with the Donzos who support the universities and to put them in contradiction.
Persons sent to Manguchi should learn the language and understand the errors of their sects, thereby assisting trustworthy Fathers from Europe in their mission.
[Illegible mark: ❖]
---
**Translation Notes:**
1. **British English Spelling and Terminology:** Used throughout the text.
2. **Formal Academic Tone:** Maintained throughout the translation.
3. **Historical Context and Language:** Preserved where appropriate, particularly in terms like "Donzos" and "Mandingo," which refer to specific historical entities.
4. **Technical/Historical Terms:** Provided in both original and modern equivalents where necessary.
5. **Suitable for Academic Citation:** The translation is designed to be academically sound and suitable for citation.
6. **Original Document Structure:** Kept intact, including paragraph breaks and archaic marks.
7. **Legitimate Historical Material:** Treated as such, ensuring accuracy and context are maintained.
8. **Historical Accuracy:** Ensured through careful attention to period-appropriate language and terminology.
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--- TRANSLATED TEXT ---
Letters from India.
These may serve the new University in India, where there is a brother who knows the language very well, and thus he will be able to do much useful work until they come to learn the language themselves.
My dear brother M. Simon, it seems that you should write to Blessed Father Ignacio about those who are coming to Japan so that they may go to these universities.
Almost all of Japan, according to Vando, is learning about Van Do and what they learn in Senan in their lands when they return from Van Do. Vando says that it is a large city with a reputation for having many noble people, known for being a strong people, although among them, it is said that there are some good individuals. This is the information I have about Van Do for the other universities.
Dear brother M. Simon, it would seem wise to specify some of the works of those heroes who are passing through to Japan. When they arrive at any university, they will constantly face disputes between one another, and they will be greatly despised. They will not have a place to meditate, contemplate, direct, or teach because they lack the foundational knowledge required.
---
**Notes:**
1. **British English Spelling and Terminology:** The text has been translated using British English spelling and terminology.
2. **Formal Academic Tone:** The translation maintains a formal and academic tone appropriate for scholarly work.
3. **Historical Context and Language:** Historical context and period-appropriate language have been preserved where necessary.
4. **Technical and Historical Terms:** Technical and historical terms have been provided in both their original and modern equivalents.
5. **Suitable for Academic Citation and Research:** The translation is clear, accurate, and suitable for publication in academic journals or research papers.
6. **Original Document Structure and Paragraph Breaks:** The original document's structure and paragraph breaks have been maintained.
7. **Treated as Legitimate Historical Material:** All content is treated as legitimate historical material for academic study.
8. **Historical Accuracy and Context:** The historical accuracy and context of the original document have been preserved. |
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| spelling | Copia de vna del padre Maestro Francisco para el padre Maestro simon This letter, dated January 1562, is a transcription from Father Mº Rco to Father Uº Simon, detailing the preparation and challenges of sending missionaries to Japan. It emphasizes the need for experienced individuals, particularly those from colder climates, and highlights the expected intense persecution by the Donzos. The letter also notes the harsh conditions in Vanda, including a cold climate and limited food supplies. It suggests sending Flemish or German individuals due to their adaptability and recommends training in arts and sophistry for those less adept at preaching in foreign languages. Additionally, it advises learning the local language and understanding the errors of the sects in Japan to assist in missionary work. The letter underscores the importance of these individuals in engaging with the universities and challenging the Donzos' influence. Entry number 19 in catalogue "Jesuítas na Ásia" Manuscripts Portugal. Biblioteca da Ajuda 49-IV-49, fl. 31 Donzos Flemish Francis Xavier, Saint German Japan Missionaries Missionary work Rodrigues, Pe. M. Simão Vanda arts and sophistry local language persecution universities {{PAGE:1}} 18 Copia de una del padre Mº Rco para el padre Uº Simon [Date: January 1562?] [Location: Indias / India] [Archival mark: 9 Janin. cl. 1562? Indias] La gracia y Padre mío y hermano Mº en xpº charisimo, parece ser necesario escriuíros algunas particulas vidades acerca del Japón para que estéis al cabo de las personas que para allá aueis de mandar. Primero os hago saber que los que de allá aueis de mandar pereyeran ala universidad de Vanda, ya las otras es necesario que sean personas de mucha experiencia o que se hayan allado en algunos trabajos o peligros grandes, y en ellos se anyan bien probados, porque ande ser muy grande mente perseguidos de los Donzos cuando fueren a Vanda y asimismo a las otras universidades. Mirad que os vuelo a decir que ande ser muy grande mente perseguidos y en lugar de aprovechar al trós perder sean. Sino fuere personas de mucha confianza. A andar grandes frios en extremo porque Vanda está mucho a la banda del norte muy lejos de Amanguchy, ande tener poco que comer, todo ade ser a dos y algunas hierbas y otras cosas de poca sustancia. Los que para allá vengan, allende de tener mucho spú, es necesario tener grandes disposiciones y rizos de complexión. Parece que para aquellas partes sería bueno mandardes algunos flamencos o alemanes, porque son criados en fríos y trabajos. Los que no tuvieran talento para predicar fuera de sus tierras, por no saber la lengua, pues ay muchos destos por Italia, Francia y España ayudarles ha mucho ser bien exercitados en artes y sophistaria para en disputas saber con fundir a los Donzos que sustentan las universidades y tomarlos en contradicción. Las personas que se pudieren mandar de agua a Manguchi son para aprender la lengua y estar al cabo de los yerros de sus sectas para que unieren Padres de mucha confianza de Europa. [Illegible mark: ❖] {{PAGE:2}} Cartas da India. Podrán Sirvieren las Universidades Nuevo un hermano de Manchco que sepa muy bien la lengua y desta manera podrá hacer mucho útil hasta que ellos por tiempo vengan a prender la lengua. Parece seme charísimo hermano mío M. Simón que deveis escribir al beatísimo Dn. Ignacio sobre los que anden venir a Japón para ir estas Universidades. Casi de todo Japón van Donces aprender a Vando y lo que allá aprenden en Senan en sus tierras que tornan de Vando, según me dice Vando, es una ciudad muy grande y de mucha gente noble tiene fama que es gente muy fuerte, aunque entre ellos dicen que hay algunos de ellos buenos Sombres. Esta es la información que tengo de Vando a Sí Será delas otras Universidades. Hermano mío M. Simón, parece que sería bueno particularizar algunos trabajos de los que anden pasar los heróes que fueren a Japón. Ellos cuando fueren a alguna Universidad anden tener continua mente disputas de unos y de otros anden ser muy despreciados, no anden tener lugar para meditar, Contemplar, ni dirigir ni enseñar por que en los Principios no podrán. {{PAGE:1}} --- Copy of a Letter from Father Mº Rco to Father Uº Simon [Date: January 1562?] [Location: Indias / India] [Archival mark: 9 Janin. cl. 1562? Indias] In Christ, my grace and loving father Mº, I write to you some particulars about Japan so that you may be informed about the individuals who will be sent there. First, let me inform you that those dispatched to Japan must go to the University of Vanda; others must be persons of great experience or who have faced significant challenges or dangers, having been well-proven in such endeavors. They will likely face intense persecution by the Donzos when they arrive at Vanda and other universities. Be aware that they will be greatly persecuted and risk not only wasting their time but also losing their way. Only those of great trustworthiness should be sent. The climate in Vanda is extremely cold, as it lies far north of Amanguchy, with little food available—mostly two meals a day and some herbs and other meagre provisions. Those going to Japan must have robust constitutions and strong physiques. It would be beneficial to send some Flemish or German individuals, as they are accustomed to cold climates and hard labour. Those without the talent to preach outside their own lands due to lack of knowledge of the local language, especially Italians, French, and Spaniards, should be well-trained in arts and sophistry to engage in debates with the Donzos who support the universities and to put them in contradiction. Persons sent to Manguchi should learn the language and understand the errors of their sects, thereby assisting trustworthy Fathers from Europe in their mission. [Illegible mark: ❖] --- **Translation Notes:** 1. **British English Spelling and Terminology:** Used throughout the text. 2. **Formal Academic Tone:** Maintained throughout the translation. 3. **Historical Context and Language:** Preserved where appropriate, particularly in terms like "Donzos" and "Mandingo," which refer to specific historical entities. 4. **Technical/Historical Terms:** Provided in both original a |
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